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Heat Treat Radio #86: Looking Ahead to Thermprocess 2023 with Timo Würz

As 2022 comes to an end, we’re taking this episode to look forward to what North American heat treaters can expect in the largest trade show for heat treaters anywhere: THERMPROCESS 2023. Doug Glenn, publisher of Heat Treat Today and Timo Würz, managing director at VDMA Metallurgy and General Secretary of The European Committee of Industrial Furnace, Heating and Metallurgical Equipment Associations (CECOF) talk about what attendees and exhibitors should expect and several of the hot topics in manufacturing that will be guiding this event.

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Doug Glenn (DG):  Welcome to another episode of Heat Treat Radio.

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DG:  Let’s talk about this. I know you are involved, in your capacity, with VDMA and CECOF and things of that sort with the THERMPROCESS event which is coming up in June. For people who might not know what THERMPROCESS is, can you give us a 30,000-foot view of the event?

Timo Würz
Managing Director at VDMA Metallurgy
General Secretary of CECOF
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Timo Würz (TW):  THERMPROCESS is the world-leading tradeshow for the thermal processing industries. And it’s not just one show -- THERMPROCESS is part of a tradeshow quartet. It’s four shows, and they are all about metallurgical equipment, metallurgical processes, thermal processing, foundry equipment, foundry applications. All of these topics are very much connected one to the other, and that makes it a really big show. It’s not just this little part of industrial furnaces and burners, but it’s imbedded in a huge metallurgical environment. That’s the reason they call this exhibition “the bright world of metals.” You’ll find there any kind of thermal applications. If you want to process glass or ceramics, you'll find the respective equipment there. This is the larger context of this show.

It's really huge. The 2019 edition that was more than 73,000 visitors in Düsseldorf, more than 2,300-something exhibitors on all the four tradeshows. For the THERMPROCESS alone I think it was about 340-350 exhibitors and about 6,000 visitors only for the show, not taking into account all the others coming from GIFA show or the METEC show which are the other shows. So, there are a lot of symmetries between these shows, and you see really everything that has something to do with thermal processing -- with equipment, with applications- it’s really a big thing.

DG:  You and I both have probably been to the THERMPROCESS since early on, maybe its beginning. I’m not sure when the first show was, but I know the first one I attended was in 1999. It was quite an event, even then.

I want to give our listeners and viewers a sense of the enormity of it. You’ve been to some of the North American shows. I don’t know if you’ve been to one of the larger shows in Chicago like the IMTS. It’s probably one of the larger metal shows in the United States. My contention is, and I wonder if you’d agree with this -- McCormick Place, where the IMTS is held, the campus on which the quartet of shows, as you say, is being held, is probably four to five times the size of an IMTS show. I don’t know if you’ve got that comparison or not, but it’s much larger than any other North American show I know of.

TW:  I know IMTS quite well because I’ve been there many years ago when I was working for the machine/tool industry. That is really a big show in the United States. I think the FABTECH is about the same size or even a little bit bigger than IMTS. I would say, maybe THERMPROCESS and the other three tradeshows are even a little bigger. I don’t know if your readers know the exhibition crowds in Düsseldorf, but they are quite huge. I think it’s the second or third largest exhibition area in Germany. The four trade shows, they really occupy all halls at the exhibition center. So, 73,000 square meters -- that is about 150,000 cross square meters, so 33,000 is only the net square meters. If you take all of the other areas together, it’s really a huge exhibition area. Still, the comparison is not too bad -- it compares to the big shows in the United States in other industries.

DG:  Yes, I think so. I tell people, when I try to give them a sense of the size of the campus that the Düsseldorf Messe. If you were to start on one end and just walk at a normal rate, it would probably take you 15-20 minutes to walk from one side to the other which, fortunately, we don’t have to do too much.

The dates of the show?

TW:  It’s June 12-16, 2023, in Düsseldorf.

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DG:  Which is a great time of year in Düsseldorf. It’s a lovely, lovely place, so I would encourage people to go.

Let’s talk about some of the trends, the international trends in thermal processing. From your perspective, what are some of those international trends, international things that are happening now that people will be able to learn about and hear about if they do come to THERMPROCESS?

TW:  There are a lot of things going on at the moment: there is the whole sustainability greenhouse gas reduction discussion going on. That is certainly going to be reflected at the show. There is digitization which is a very important issue for all industries but also for the metallurgical industries and the thermal processing industries. It gives you some new benefits you can offer to your customers, or you can benefit from in your product development. So, that’s a huge topic.

There is additive manufacturing that gives you completely new opportunities on how to produce certain parts for your equipment or how to replace a traditional technology. Think about replacing a casting by a part that is produced with additive manufacturing. Finally, the part is the same but the production process is completely different. There is a very interesting competition now between different production technologies coming out. That will be shown there and many, many others.

We could go into very specific details like new types of communication between machines and management systems or between different kinds of machines, and really a lot of interesting developments -- artificial intelligence, machine learning -- that all helps to optimize your process and your equipment, so that’s really an amazing development going on.

DG:  I’ve got a question for you:  I know you are kind of on the inside track with the whole Bright World Metals and Messe Düsseldorf, the organization that puts this on. Do you think that some day in the future they will add a fifth show on 3-D printing? There are a lot of metals going on here, right?

TW:  That is a very good question. I don’t know because there are still other exhibitions for 3-D printing and additive manufacturing. Maybe not necessarily a new show, but it is certainly becoming a permanent part of the existing show. One or the other place will really highlight that additive manufacturing maybe without having a fifth show to do it.

DG:  I think it would be interesting! We’d have to figure out instead of being a quartet, it would have to be a quintet, or something.

Let’s talk a little bit about the electrification. Let’s dig a little bit deeper into the electrification. What are you seeing there? I know, right now, you’re sitting in Florida, with tropical storm Nicole in your background. Is that the name?

TW:  It’s Nicole.

DG:  You’re sitting there in Florida, but I know you’re typically out of Germany. What are you seeing, Timo, there in Germany, regarding electrification and the move away from greenhouse gas, let’s say?

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TW:  That is a good question but difficult to answer question. Electrification is not really new. There are well-established processes which are already electrified. Think about induction heating or melting or electric arc furnace. That is all electrified heating equipment, so that is not really new.

The important question is, how many other processes could be replaced by electrified processes? Now, I mean such processes where you burn fossil fuel, for example, natural gas. That is really the point when it comes to greenhouse gas mitigation -- you want to get rid of greenhouse gases, and usually they are emitted when you burn something. From a physics point of view or an engineering point of view, electrification is great because it has a very high efficiency. Turning electricity into heat has a very high efficiency, much better than burning something and generating heat from burning fossil fuels.

The problem is -- think of a reheating furnace in a steelworks. In terms of energy consumption, which has to be called a monster because a reheating furnace in a steelworks consumes per hour as much energy as a jumbo-jet flying from Europe to the U.S., each hour. And now, try to imagine how to electrify such an application. At the moment it’s hardly conceivable that you can really replace that existing equipment by something that is electrified. You have the same energy density that is needed to get the process done. That is very difficult. You really come to technological limits.

I don’t say you can’t overcome them in the future; but at the moment, it is just not possible. But you have to see which processes are possible, and those which possible should be electrified. And for others, you have to accept maybe you need a hybrid concept -- electrical heating and conventional burner, or you have to accept that you have to burn something. In the future, maybe that will be green hydrogen. So, there are different roots.

Finally, green hydrogen is another form of electrification because you need electricity to produce green hydrogen. When you bring that all down to one point, it’s only a question of -- are you able to generate a sufficient amount of renewable energy? It’s not a question about the thermprocess aspect, it’s more or less a question about the generation of enough renewable energy so that it’s about wind energy, it’s about solar power, etc. If there’s enough renewable energy, I would say everything can be electrified or everything could be supplied with green hydrogen. That is not the main problem. The main problem is the availability of enough renewable energy.

DG:  I think our listeners would be interested in your perspective just on this one little issue: I know one of the drivers in Germany for electrification is the fact that you’re getting your gas supply cut off by friends to the East. I’m curious, how is it there in Germany with the lines being cut? The pipes being cut?

TW:  It’s really challenging. To be honest, we were used to having a cheap energy supply from Russia, cheap gas from Russia that was the fuel for a lot of parts of our life -- for industry, for private heating, and everything. So, that’s gone now. Now, we have a completely different situation. At the moment, fortunately, all our gas storage is full so we were able to fill them very quickly at very high cost because we had to buy all the gas, wherever we got it, and had to pay really insane prices.

So, maybe that might not really push electrification because, at the moment, a good part of our electrification strategy was based on burning natural gas as a kind of transition technology. Now that’s gone and we have to reactivate all the power plants which are already phased out. Now we reactivate the coal-fired power plants in order to have enough electricity. So, we have a big discussion about nuclear power because we phased out already most of our nuclear power plants. There are only three running. How long they can run to maybe support energy production?

On the other hand, we’ve seen friends that more than 50% of their nuclear power plants, at the moment, are not working either because they have technical problems or because the French rivers don’t have enough water due to the drought. You need the cooling water for the nuclear power plant. At the moment, we have to export electricity to France; usually it’s the other way around.

DG:  That is very interesting. I didn’t realize that. I knew there was quite the drought, but I didn’t realize that that had an impact on their nuclear power production.

TW:  Yes. At least in France, it is very bad. The whole situation is somewhat strange, at the moment. My personal opinion is that it will help us to transform our energy system much faster than we already tried to do. That is really something pushing us in a completely new direction. I think the renewable power generation will really get a boost because we don’t have that many alternatives. We have to rely on I don’t know how many ships from the U.S. bringing LNG or from Qatar or some of these places. It is a challenging situation but I think it will help to transform the whole system much faster.

DG:  We have a saying, and you may have something similar in Germany, but they say, “necessity is the mother of invention,” meaning, if you’ve got to do something, you figure out how to do it, right? You invent something to be able to do it. Such is the case with the power situation there in western Europe, for sure.

Well, we wish you luck on that.

Let’s talk a bit about digitization or the internet of things and things of that sort. Tell me what people will possibly see, if they go to THERMPROCESS in regard to digitization and IIoT.

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TW:  I think digitization is not a trend anymore. It’s a reality and it’s a necessity for all companies. You can’t do any business without thinking about how to digitize certain aspects of your business. It helps on different levels. First of all, it is, of course, a great help to optimize processes. Think of using, for example, machine learning or artificial intelligence or whatever you might want to call it. You can generate optimized furnace recipes for heat treating processes, for example, which were then based on the knowledge of people, in the past. And they were quite good, but now you reach new levels of optimization just using these digital solutions or the transformation of data communication. You get a complete new level of transparency of what is going on in your system because every part has an IP address and can tell you what its stage is, what it’s doing, and what is maybe a problem. So, you have a complete new transparency of your processes of your equipment that you can transfer easily to management systems. You can base decisions on such data which then becomes information and that is something that really improves the overall equipment efficiency very much. That is a really big benefit for the customers.

Digitization is also the way towards new business models. So, having all your equipment, all your processes as a part of, let’s say, a digital or data ecosystem, it allows you to offer completely new products. For example, apps that help your customer to do the scheduling of the production or to allow you to have paper production concept or maybe helps you to do predictive maintenance and all those things. I think you will see all of this at the THERMPROCESS and the other three trade shows next year because, I would say, most of the companies, be it small or be it big, they  have such digital solutions now and they will show it in all different aspects and types of application.

DG:  Along that line, shifting gears just a little bit on this, one of the issues that we’re experiencing here in the United States is labor shortages and things of that sort. I don’t know if that’s exactly the same in Germany, but let’s assume that it is. How about automization and the use of robotics? Are you seeing anything along that line there, and do you anticipate that people would see some solutions or some ideas along that line if they were to come to THERMPROCESS?

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TW:  Yes, we do have the very same problem. Finding young people, finding skilled people who are able to do their jobs in a highly sophisticated, industrial environment is terribly difficult. We have many, many jobs where we can’t find people for. Not the low wages jobs, but highly qualified jobs that require a lot of training. It’s exactly the same problem you have in the United States. And automization is maybe one aspect of overcoming that problem. Of course, a lot of companies do invest in automization, they do invest in robotics. Maybe not in the thermal processing industry. Robotics there is maybe different from what we maybe think of when we hear robotics like in automotive assembly, when you see maybe 2,000 robots working in a coordinated way, assembling a car structure. But any kind of automization that helps to overcome labor shortages being manipulating heavy pieces.

DG:  I think of fixturing and racking, right? I mean, that’s a heavily labor-intensive process, even if it’s small parts? Taking 100 parts and putting them in a rack so that they can be heat treated -- I think automization.

TW:  Yes. So, if you don’t find the people to do that, you certainly will have automization. You find all the big robotic companies and the automization suppliers on the four trade shows, especially in the foundry environment -- there is a lot of robotics. So, robotics manufacturers like KUKA, ABP and Fanuc, they are all there. They will show their special applications for the metallurgical sector. There is certainly a lot to see at the THERMPROCESS and the other three shows.

DG:  So, you and I both know that at THERMPROCESS and GIFA and METEC and NEWCAST, that it’s not all business. There is a little bit of enjoyment beyond business that goes on there. It’s also a little bit of fun on the show floor, but I would like your personal opinion: What do you enjoy about Düsseldorf? What is there for those people who would want to come over and do more than just work? What is there to see?

TW:  First of all, it’s taking place in summer and usually, at least the last two or three editions, we had really  nice weather. That helps a lot to get people in a good mood. Düsseldorf is a particularly nice city. It has an old part, Düsseldorf Altstadt, where you’ll find these typical restaurants and these typical Düsseldorf pubs where you get this special beer. That is really a place where people just meet and have fun. So, after the show you can go there and just have fun. You can talk business of course, if you like, but you can just have fun, drink a beer, sit at the banks of the Rhine river. The people are nice people. The people from the Rhineland, they are known as nice people. They have a good sense of humor so it is really a good place to come, do business, but also do anything else but business. It is a good place to be in June. There is plenty to do, and it’s a good place to have a lot of fun.

DG:  And it’s easy to get around, I must say. At the Messe or the fairgrounds, where the show is, the trains pull right in. They’re more like trolley trains, not necessarily subway trains, but it’s kind of what we think of in the United States as subway cars- they pull right into the Messe there. It’s easy to get on, it’s easy to get off. It’s 10-15 minutes to downtown. There is some great shopping for any of you ladies, or men if you’re a shopper, that you can easily take a walk down Königsallee which is a beautiful shopping place there and the Altstadt as you mentioned- all pretty much, which I think is nice, depending on where you stay in Düsseldorf . If you’re in the downtown area, it’s all relatively, if you’re in decent shape, in walking distance. You can walk it. I walked from the Bahnhof all the way over to Altstadt. You can do it; it’s not undoable.

TW:  That is all within walking distance, yes. And, if not, you can take the tram or the subway and it takes you 15-20 minutes, and you’re right in the center. Even if you want to go a little further- all the other large cities around are very well connected by this public transportation system. Never use a car in this area -- that is bad. In terms of traffic, if you are in a car, it’s a mess. Use the public transportation, and it’s wonderful because it connects all cities. You can easily go to Cologne, you can go to all the other cities around. It’s very easy.

DG:  In the past, they’ve had a bit of a technical program associated. Are they having that this time?

TW:  Yes, of course.

DG:  If you don’t mind, tell us a  bit about what you know about that technical program.

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TW:  At THERMPROCESS, there is going to be the THERMPROCESS forum -- what was the THERMPROCESS symposium, in the past. It’s a kind of 2-day presentation program right in, I think, Exhibition Hall #9, so where the THERMPROCESS really is, where we have a two days with program presentations from exhibiting companies showing their innovations or showing new solutions, new applications.

We’re going to have at the first day, a special program that will try to dive a little bit deeper into the energy transition -- how the energy system will transform in the future. That is more from a scientific point of view, a political point of view, but nevertheless very interesting. Then we have the company presentations, and we are going to have the ‘tech talks.’ On Thursday, we are going to have the ‘tech talks.’ Originally, it was an online forum, but there we transfer it to the exhibition. So, three companies are giving presentations in a frame of a specific topic. They all build thematically on the other presentations so you see a whole picture of one specific topic. That is going to happen.

And there will be, of course, the foundry related events. There is going to be the ESTA that is the European steel technology application day. That is a very big event with seven hundred sessions over the whole exhibition. That is for the metallurgical people, so for the steel producers.

DG:  Good. That’s great. I thought that was going on but I wasn’t sure and I just wanted to confirm.

Timo, I thank you very much. I appreciate you taking the time to help us understand what might be going on at THERMPROCESS. Thanks very much for joining us.

TW:  It was my pleasure, thank you.

 

Doug Glenn <br> Publisher <br> Heat Treat Today

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Natural Gas vs. Hydrogen Combustion: Reality or Hot Air? – Expert Analysis

OCFossil fuels. Are they detrimental to the environment? Are they past their prime? Is hydrogen what we should be talking about? Are there other technologies that should be capturing our attention?

Heat Treat Today and our good friends at heatprocessing, Europe’s leading heat treat magazine, sought outstanding U.S. and European experts in the energy field to answer and provide analysis about the state of natural gas and hydrogen combustion. This original content piece, edited by Karen Gantzer, managing editor at Heat Treat Today, appeared in the Heat Treat Today 2020 Medical & Energy December print edition. We hope you enjoy this Technical Tuesday.


John B. Clarke
Technical Director
Helios Electric

The following article highlights the insight of seven gentlemen in the heat treating industry, from both the U.S. and Europe, who work within the energy sector. We asked them for their responses to three questions regarding natural gas and hydrogen combustion. Our European colleagues also commented on whether hydrogen will be an important

factor in the heat treat industry in 10 years. There is a diversity of opinions among the experts, and it’s important to note how regional economics and resources may have impacted responses.

We hope you enjoy the analysis from our experts.

Where do you see the natural gas industry today? Where do you believe it will be in 10 years?

John B. Clarke, technical director at Helios Electric Corporation, a combustion consultancy in Fort Wayne, Indiana, shares how different his answer would have been if asked years ago about the state of natural gas: “Had you asked me 25 years ago, I would have described a market with a declining supply of natural gas resulting in rising costs. A market dominated by a drive to increase efficiency to control energy costs. That was then, but now we have an abundant (yet finite) supply of natural gas resulting in very low costs – and in the medium term, a market dominated by a drive to reduce emissions. Increased efficiency – both in the medium term and today – will reduce energy costs while at the same time reduce CO2 emissions.”

Clarke continues, “Given the prevalence of hydraulic fracturing, we can expect an expanding availability of natural gas, if the market price provides a sufficient return for the producers. The greatest disruption in the natural gas market will likely be on the consumption side as electrical power producers continue their shift away from coal to natural gas. While renewables will play a larger part, they cannot meet the requirement to provide continuous base load power to consumers.”

Dave Wolff
Region Sales Manager
Nel Hydrogen

Dave Wolff, region sales manager at Nel Hydrogen, a manufacturer of onsite hydrogen generation, agrees with Clarke on the budget friendly price of natural gas, and he also cautions that it’s a finite resource: “It is an amazing time to be a natural gas user. Natural gas has never been cheaper than it is today ($2.00/MMBTU range). But the super low pricing won’t last forever. It is critical to understand that natural gas reserves are a finite resource, and that at today’s pricing, most shale operations are losing money. The Energy Information Association (EIA) expects that natural gas pricing will go up 50% in 2021 versus 2020.”

Regarding the future, Wolff recommends, “. . . wind and solar energy are truly infinite energy sources. Unlike the volatile and unpredictable natural gas pricing chart, renewable electricity prices are on a steady downward trend... So, I would strongly advise people to test their investment decisions as to the varying picture for natural gas versus electric price predictions. Especially if buying furnaces, this is critical, since the lifetime cost of a furnace is overwhelmingly a function of energy.”

Keenan Cokain, global sales and applications coordinator and Michael Cochran, an applications engineer, both from Pittsburgh’s Bloom Engineering, an industrial combustion and controls company, add another consideration: “Natural gas is a vital primary energy source globally and will likely remain so over the next 10 years. Although energy demands will likely show an overall decline in 2020, over the next 10 years, global natural gas consumption will likely rise as it continues to grow in comparison to other fossil fuels (such as oil and coal) as a percentage of the global primary energy consumed.

"It is important to note that when combusted natural gas (methane) produces about 117 lbs. of carbon dioxide (CO2) per 1 million Btu released, this is lower than oil and coal which produces 164 lbs. and 208 lbs. of CO2 per 1 million Btu respectively. Given the fact that natural gas produces lower CO2 emissions compared to other common fossil fuels, some see it as a bridge fuel that could be used in greater amounts until other fuel sources with lower carbon dioxide footprints are developed."

Do our European colleagues share a similar view?

Dipl.-Ing. Gerd Waning
Market Development
Metallurgy Heat Treatment
Linde GmbH

Dipl.-Ing. Gerd Waning, market development in Metallurgy Heat Treatment at Linde GmbH, a global industrial gases and engineering company, states, “Due to the excellently developed natural gas infrastructure in many European countries, natural gas is today probably the best established energy source in industry and households with a high level of acceptance in terms of environmental friendliness and safety.”

In regard to decarbonization, the removal of hydrocarbons from combustion, Waning shares, “In connection with the strongly accelerated decarbonization of industrial and energy production in Europe, it can be assumed that the share of natural gas in the overall energy business will initially increase through 2030. The scheduled shutdown of coal and nuclear power plants (in Germany) will not be able to be compensated by renewable energy sources during this period, so the deficits in the in-house production of electricity will have to be partially compensated by natural gas.”

Dr.-Ing. Michael Severin
Business Field Manager Process Heat
Karl Dungs GmbH & Co. KG

Dr.-Ing. Michael Severin, business field manager, Process Heat, at Karl Dungs GmbH & Co. KG, a supplier for combustion controls components and system solutions for heating burners, boilers, process heat, and gas engines, introduces climate-neutrality and digitalization to the conversation. “The natural gas industry, with its conservative requirements, is challenged by modern demands for climate-neutrality and digitalization. I believe in 10 years we will have proven that combustion and climate-neutrality are not contradictory, and that safety and security can be boosted by intelligent systems. However, in 10 years these examples will still be pilot projects, with a growing infrastructure and the broad transition happening gradually.”

Lars Böhmer
Managing Director
Research Association for Industrial Furnace Construction (FOGI) within VDMA Metallurgy

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Lars Böhmer, managing director at the Research Association for Industrial Furnace Construction (FOGI) within VDMA Metallurgy, a joint platform of metallurgical machinery producers in Europe, believes the changes that are coming are necessary and will not be a surprise to the natural gas industry. “So, all stakeholders, suppliers as well as users, are in dialogue regarding possible solutions,” explains Böhmer.

Regarding the future, Böhmer states, “The market in 10 years’ time will certainly be a different one than today, and you don’t have to be a prophet to say that alternative fuels will play a greater role than they are currently. Whether these alternative fuels will then be used 100% or as a blend may well depend on many regional, but also technical, parameters.”

What do you perceive to be the eventual move from fossil fuels to hydrogen-based fuels? Why the move away from fossil fuels?

There is a consensus among our experts that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is a universal desire and that the burden to accomplish this goal lies within countries around the world. What is fascinating are the various options they provide to replace the carbon-based fuels.

Cokain and Cochran, from Bloom Engineering, share their thoughts on generating hydrogen on an industrial scale and viable next steps. They say, “The most common way to generate hydrogen today on an industrial scale is through a process called steam-methane reforming. During this process natural gas (methane) and steam are combined under pressure with catalysts in a twostep process to produce carbon dioxide (CO2) and hydrogen (H2). Once the carbon dioxide is removed, one is left with pure hydrogen that can be used as a carbon-free fuel source. The downside to steam-methane reforming is that by the time the steam is produced and the carbon stripped from the natural gas, the resulting carbon dioxide emissions can be on the order of 40% more per unit of fuel energy produced than would have resulted from the direct combustion of natural gas. This means that without being coupled with carbon capture and store (CCS) – capturing the CO2 before it leaves the plant – a move to hydrogen based fuels generated using today’s most common methods of hydrogen production would result in an increase of carbon dioxide emissions into the atmosphere.”

The Bloom team continues, “Other methods of producing hydrogen that would not result in increased generation of carbon dioxide are currently being developed. One such method would be electrolysis or the use of electricity to decompose water into hydrogen and oxygen. If the electric for such a process were generated using renewable or ‘carbon neutral’ sources, then the carbon penalty associated with hydrogen production could be eliminated.”

Nel Hydrogen’s Wolff contends, “It seems straightforward that forever energy sources are going to be less expensive in the long run than finite ones. No matter what your environmental politics, the facts are that finite resources go up in price as supply shrinks relative to demand.”

“Hydrogen for the heat treat industry is unlikely to be used as a fuel – it is used as an atmosphere component, with diluents such as nitrogen or argon, and with carbon-contributors such as methanol or even methane itself,” Wolff continues. “Long-term, we at Nel expect that hydrogen produced on-site will be the predominant hydrogen-containing atmosphere approach.”

Clarke of Helios Electrical Corporation is a believer in battery technology, “The movement from coal to natural gas is, in essence, a move from full carbon to a carbon/hydrogen fuel. As for pure hydrogen fuel cells, there may be new technology that drives the costs down, but my bet is that battery technology advancement will push fuel cells from most applications.”

While the economic impact on the infrastructure to build thousands of recharging stations will surely be a consideration for the future of electric cars, Clarke says, “I believe we will see an accelerated movement to electric vehicles. Battery technology has reached a point where the range of these vehicles are acceptable for an increasing number of consumers.” Clarke continues, “This will move consumption from gasoline and other petroleum- based fuels but may increase demand for natural gas for power generation.”

“In the end,” Clarke explains, “it always comes down to economics – cost of new equipment, cost of operating, and cost of regulation. I believe current users of fossil fuel heating equipment in the industry can expect the cost of equipment and regulations to increase. More efficient technology with heat recovery will cost more to purchase and install, and we can expect regulatory compliance costs to increase. As for cost of operating the equipment, I am optimistic that decreased energy consumption might offset increased energy costs.”

Karl Dungs GmbH & Co.’s Severin shares two options for transitioning to include hydrogen in a combustion system: “Hydrogen as a chemical energy carrier makes green electric power storable and utilizable for industries where large amounts of heat and high temperatures are required. Infrastructure and gas systems can be used with hydrogen with minor adaptations to the combustion system. For the transition, there are two possible ways. Either hydrogen is blended into natural gas networks and the ratio will be ramped up over the years. Or, parallel hydrogen networks will be created, which supply particular plants with 100% hydrogen now and will then grow and spread into the rest of the industry over the years. The determination between these scenarios is hard to foresee at the moment, but I personally see a trend towards the latter.”

Böhmer, of VDMA, knows there are field tests with fuel/gas mixtures containing 20% hydrogen, however he thinks we’ll see “an intermediate step of about 60% hydrogen, since there is little experience beyond this value. The question that plays a big role regarding this topic is, ‘How much hydrogen, which is produced by means of renewable energy, will be available at all?’”

Waning, from Linde GmbH, addresses the longevity of furnace systems and new systems versus conversions: “Due to the long service life of heat treatment systems, there will be only a few systems built exclusively for hydrogen as a heating medium. The technological feasibility of converting from natural gasfired systems to hydrogen-fired systems or a mixture of natural gas and hydrogen (50/50) is only just beginning to be researched on an industrial scale, whereas the conversion of the infrastructure to high hydrogen concentrations is considered manageable. However, this changeover should not be critical, particularly in the case of heat treatment systems that are fired with closed radiant heating tubes due to their protective atmosphere operation."

Should captive heat treaters be talking about hydrogen or are there other technologies they should be focusing on?

Linde GmbH’s Waning states that there are no significant differences between contract heat treaters and in-house heat treaters because of the comparable systems used by both. However, he does encourage us to focus on the period after 2023. He says, “Here it becomes clear how strongly development depends on current local political action. France, for example, continues to consistently focus on expanding the use of electricity. Here the heat treatment company is well advised to operate electrically heated systems if they want to minimize their CO2 footprint. Paired with nitrogen-methanol or hydrogen as a protective gas from green sources, a heat treatment process with the lowest CO2 emissions can be created.”

“In Germany,” Waning continues, “the picture is completely different. The move away from coal and nuclear power towards renewable energies led to the recently adopted German hydrogen strategy. There is no getting around the increasing use of hydrogen as a combustion medium, as the regulations for a massive expansion of the electrical networks in Germany lead to extremely long implementation times. While the same must be said here for the protective atmosphere side as for France and all other countries, the heat treatment company in Germany should consider being able to react flexibly to the actual conditions with hybrid heating (electric + gas).”

Severin, from Karl Dungs GmbH & Co., talks about biogas: “Biogas can have the same CO2 -neutral balance as hydrogen and has a better availability in many regions nowadays. However, biogas will always be a very limited resource and will not be able to serve a whole industry segment. Other climate-neutral fuels, like synthetic methane or higher hydrocarbons, always involve a loss in overall efficiency. In the long run, I only see hydrogen as a feasible and comprehensive solution for green combustion technology.”

VDMA’s Böhmer cautions against thinking that hydrogen is the silver bullet to solve the climate challenges: “In my opinion, considering hydrogen as the one and only solution to climate problems would be the wrong way to go. Hydrogen is one of several possible solutions, although it has already turned out to play a very important role against the background of the already mentioned storage possibilities of regeneratively produced energy. But it also has to be taken into account that the hydrogen, be it as combustion gas or as basis for further conversions, has to be available everywhere it is needed and in the required quantities.”

Böhmer also reminds us there are possible solutions in the world of synthetically produced fuels that are not exclusively hydrogen-based. In fact, “in the aviation industry, the use of sustainable kerosene from ‘power-to-liquid’ plants is not only being discussed but is already being tested. So, the fuel of the future does not necessarily have to be only gaseous, and actually there are many different approaches and efforts to reach the targets.”

To the heat treater, Böhmer emphasizes that electric heating, i.e., inductive hardening, “must not be missing. It can be assumed that the share of electrical heat treatment will increase, as the use of pure or blended hydrogen as fuel gas may be critical, depending on the process and material.”

Helios Electrical Corporation’s Clarke doesn’t believe hydrogen as a heating technology is a viable option. He says, “Obviously, hydrogen as an atmosphere will continue to be used. Burning hydrogen to generate heat is more problematic – heat transfer from the flame to the work being heated (or inside of a radiant tube) is a function of radiation and convection. The hydrogen flame will lack much of the luminosity we have come to expect when burning CH4. The change in luminosity will alter the heat transfer mechanism, providing greater heat flux over a smaller area. Hydrogen also has a very high flame propagation rate.” He mentions the cost of producing and transporting hydrogen must enter into the equation.

Clarke continues, “As an industry, we still have a great deal of energy that can be extracted from the exhaust products of natural gas-fired equipment.” Although he points out that “current economics make the deployment of more advanced technology to capture and reuse this heat unattractive in many cases,” he expects “the cost of natural gas and/or the demand of regulations may very well change this equation in the 10-year time frame.” (In North America, unfortunately, mandated regulatory compliance may be the only viable adaptation of this technology.)

One last opportunity that Clarke mentions is “the efficiency gains that result from improving equipment maintenance, adjusting fuel/air ratios to reduce excess air, cleaning heat transfer surfaces, and maintaining combustion chambers at the optimum pressure to decrease tramp air. Deploying new technology is like a football team hiring a star quarterback. He is not too valuable if the team ignores basic blocking and tackling.”

Bloom Engineering’s Cokain and Cochran think the response from captive heaters may very well be dictated by the area in which they do business, as discussed earlier. “In some places, the goal of reducing carbon dioxide emissions at the point of use could outweigh the fact that hydrogen generation, specifically using steam-methane reforming (SMR) which is most common today, often carries a carbon penalty and is more costly compared to the direct combustion of natural gas. Unless hydrogen production, specifically through SMR coupled with carbon capture and store (CCS), can be made more cost effective, heat treaters in these carbon-regulated areas may want to consider electrification if their process permits.”

They continue, “Unlike some other pollutants that have a largely localized effect, carbon dioxide (CO2) is expected to make the same contribution to global climate change regardless of where it is released. As a result, decarbonization regulations would need to be applied globally to be effective. Otherwise, heat processing industries will likely shift away from regulated regions due to the cost advantages of operating in unregulated areas and continue to add CO2 to the atmosphere.”

And lastly, the Bloom team advises this approach, “Today, the best way for captive heat treaters to minimize carbon dioxide emissions would be to maximize process efficiency and minimize energy use. In other words, burn less fuel and use less electric. For any process that relies on the combustion of fossil fuels, an increase in efficiency that results in a net reduction of fuel burned will proportionally reduce carbon dioxide emissions. One possible way to increase efficiency in a combustion process would be to recover heat from that process’s waste gases through the use of a recuperator or regenerative burner technology. These types of technologies can greatly increase efficiency, but they must be carefully applied since they are not compatible with all combustion processes.”

How important will hydrogen be for the heat treatment industry in 10 years?

Our European experts share their thoughts on the role of hydrogen in the heat treat industry in the next decade.

Waning of Linde GmbH suggests, “Many heat treatment processes that are currently operated with carbon-containing protective atmospheres could alternatively also be operated with very high hydrogen contents. From the current state of technological knowledge, it is mainly atmospheric carburization systems that require a significant proportion of carbon monoxide in the atmosphere in order to be able to operate economically. (Such processes can, however, also be operated with a low CO2 footprint if they are operated with nitrogenmethanol from renewable sources.)”

“Assuming a high availability of inexpensive hydrogen, many operators would opt for the protective gas with the higher hydrogen content, especially since this would result in other significant advantages in terms of furnace life and cleanliness of the systems and quenching medium,” states Waning. “On balance, it can therefore be assumed that in the future there will be a higher hydrogen demand in the heat treatment industry for the protective gas sector alone.”

Karl Dungs GmbH & Co.’s Severin responds, “This depends highly on the regional availability, national regulations, and subsidies. I see local ‘valleys’ of hydrogen grids, with the heat treatment industry being one of the drivers to demand a carbon-neutral energy source, where electrification is not possible. Cost is the main obstacle for this option, so cost reduction in international supply chains, infrastructure, and applications with large consumption is key. In 10 years, this won’t be achieved fully, and hydrogen solutions will still be more expensive than natural gas combustion.”

“Hydrogen will certainly play a greater role for the heat treatment industry than it does today,” states Böhmer, of VDMA. “Regardless of whether pure hydrogen, a natural gashydrogen blend or synthetic natural gas produced by methanization is used in the combustion processes; the fact is that hydrogen will play an important and decisive role as fuel-gas for combustion processes. In this context, the possibility of storing energy by means of hydrogen should not be forgotten in energy-intensive fields such as the heat treatment industry.”

Böhmer concludes, “Nevertheless, it also has to be taken into consideration that there may be a possible influence of hydrogen not only on the burner and the fuel supply regarding choice of materials and safety-procedures, but especially on the material to be treated. Therefore, a possible conversion of hydrogen into synthetic gases must be considered in some cases. It goes without saying that the efficiency and costs play a decisive role in this context.”

 

 

 

For more information, contact the experts:

  1. John B. Clarke, Technical Director, Helios Electric Corporation: jclarke@helios-corp.com
  2. Keenan Cokain Global Sales and Applications Coordinator, Bloom Engineering: kcokain@bloomeng.com
  3. Michael Cochran, Applications Engineer, Bloom Engineering: mcochran@bloomeng.com
  4. Dave Wolff, Region Sales Manager, Nel Hydrogen: dwolff@nelhydrogen.com
  5. Dipl.-Ing. Gerd Waning, Market Development Metallurgy Heat Treatment, Linde GmbH: gerd.waning@linde.com
  6. Dr.-Ing. Michael Severin, Business Field Manager Process Heat, Karl Dungs GmbH & Co. KG: m.severin@dungs.com
  7. Lars Böhmer, Managing Director, Research Association for Industrial Furnace, Construction (FOGI) within VDMA Metallurgy: lars.boehmer@vdma.org

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