Dave Deiwert

Heat Treat Radio #123: Helium Leak Detection Tips for Vacuum Furnace Operators

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Helium leak detection is critical to ensure system integrity, product quality, and operational efficiency in vacuum processing. With 36 years of hands-on experience, Dave Deiwert of Tracer Gas Technologies joins host Doug Glenn on the most recent episode of Heat Treat Radio to share a wealth of knowledge on the evolution of leak detection technology, practical maintenance, and best practices for leak testing.

Listeners will gain practical insights into the best leak detection practices and how to troubleshoot challenges.

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The following transcript has been edited for your reading enjoyment.

Introduction

Doug Glenn: Helium leak detection has come a long way, but not everyone has a brand new piece of equipment. So let’s talk about some of the shortcomings of older equipment and some of the improvements that you’re seeing. 

Dave Deiwert: When I started in 1989, leak detectors pretty much had what were called oil diffusion pumps as the high vacuum pump. That’s the pump that creates the vacuum for the analyzer cell or mass spectrometer so they can separate helium from other gases. These diffusion leak detectors did not like to be shut down improperly or have power outages quite frequently.  

You would hear stories of somebody that turned the power off of a leak detector without a proper shutdown or a power outage, and that could cause an oily mess from the diffusion pump, and maybe even crack the oil. So, you would end up having quite a maintenance event required on the leak detector before you could use it again.  

In fact, these kinds of problems happened so frequently that in my young sales days when turbopump leak detectors first were introduced, as I would go in to show it to a potential client, one of the first questions was, “What happens if you have a power outage?”  

I would have a little fun with that.  

I’d say, “Well, let’s find out.” And I would pull the plug out of the wall, and they would say, “Oh, you can do that?” And of course you could. A turbo pump would just coast down towards a stop. Then we turn the power back on, and it’s back up.  

Part of what compounded this problem with the diffusion pump is that it works by heating oil to jet mist oil vapor that goes to the top, and it’s condensed and directed back down. When power is lost, whether you turn the power off with an improper shutdown or a power outage, that pump is still hot for quite a while. It’s still trying to pump, and the backing pump, whether it’s a diffusion pump or a turbopump, is typically a rotary vane pump. With a power outage or power stop, those pumps will come to a stop very quickly. But those diffusion pumps and turbo pumps are not designed to exhaust atmosphere, so the backing pump or rotary pump comes to a stop pretty quickly, and now you have atmosphere potential on the exhaust of the diffusion pump. 

The turbopump survives that much more nicely than a diffusion pump does. So the first major upgrade in the technology across the board with all the manufacturers was moving away from diffusion pumps to turbo pumps. If you buy a new leak detector from the ‘90s to today, it will very likely have a turbo pump no matter whom you buy it from and even if you buy a used one. 

Size and Portability of Leak Detectors (00:06:09)  

Doug Glenn: How large were these original pieces of equipment? Did you have to wheel them around? 

Dave Deiwert: The very first ones I worked with predominantly would be the size of a washer/dryer. They would typically have casters on so you can roll them around.  

Turbopump Leak Detector
Source: LDS Vacuum Shopper

They took up more space and certainly took up a lot more energy. You could sometimes find what they would call portable leak detectors, but they would still have diffusion pumps in them, and they’d have less features because of how small they were versus the console leak detectors.  

Doug Glenn: So now nowadays they use helium leak detectors. 

Dave Deiwert: Most everybody’s gotten away from console leak detectors. You can find a couple companies that have a fairly large rolls-on-caster leak detector that still has turbo pumps, and higher performing backing/ruffing pumps. But the majority of leak detectors you’re going to find are more portable and smaller in size.  

Doug Glenn: Are they close in size to a briefcase? 

Dave Deiwert: They average 12 to 18 inches wide by 10 to 12 inches deep and 12 to 14 inches tall, approximately. So, much smaller than a washer/dryer. 

Quite frequently, these leak detectors may be sold with a cart so that you don’t have to carry them from point A to point B. It can be a little laborious to still carry them. They weigh 40 lbs or more. So quite often, the first accessory purchased with the leak detector is a cart to roll it around. 

Doug Glenn: So it’s a heavy piece of carry-on luggage essentially. 

Dave Deiwert: Absolutely. 

Maintenance: Old vs. New Leak Detectors (00:06:37)  

Evaluating a vacuum furnace for leaks

Doug Glenn: How would you compare the maintenance of those older units, assuming that you don’t lose power, versus maintenance of the newer units.  

Dave Deiwert: A stereotypical experience from my field service days would be if you’re running a diffusion pump leak detector in a production environment, using it every day, then most likely you’re going to do what I call an overhaul of the leak detector. During this overhaul, you’re going to change your oils, change the filaments in the mass spectrometer, put on new valve seats, and clean the manifold. 

Not everybody will do this. There are those that might go a year or two, especially if the leak detector is purely for troubleshooting, like if you have only a few furnaces. The leak detector may sit against the wall, and then you go get out to leak test a furnace. They may well get a couple of years of use out of a leak detector before needing to do any preventative maintenance or even a major overhaul.  

With the new turbopump leak detectors, I think all the manufacturers now have models that most likely you’ll go multiple years without really doing anything other than changing oil in the backing pump, which you might do a couple times a year or so, keep an eye on the oil level, much more maintenance friendly and easier to do the troubleshooting and the service to it.  

Filament Technology Improvements (00:08:10)  

Dave Deiwert: The next major upgrade in the leak detectors across the industry was the filament design.  

The old diffusion pump leak detectors predominantly had tungsten filaments, which, if you’ve ever cracked or seen a cracked light bulb that had a tungsten element in it, you know that immediately you lose the function of the light bulb. And the same thing with the filaments that are tungsten in a mass spectrometer. If it gets a pressure burst, which is what I call the event when somebody disconnects the test port from the vacuum furnace while the leak detector is still in test, that allows a pressure burst into the leak detector and tungsten filament, and most likely you will burn out the filament. As a result, you will have a maintenance event for that.  

As a rule of thumb, you will get 1,000 to 2,000 hours out of an old leak detector with tungsten filaments, but you’re going to get many thousands of hours out of a Yttria coated-iridium, which I think is used across the board in the industry today. In the case of  

several years even, it greatly reduces your cost of ownership with the newer leak detectors. 

Performance and Cost Comparison (00:09:12)  

Doug Glenn: Are there any other major differences between the old units and the new units? 

Dave Deiwert: There are some extra benefits from the upgrades that we’ve talked about. The turbopumps will allow, at least modern leak detectors, us to test at a higher pressure (or less vacuum). You press “Start Leak Detector.” The test port pressure pumps down to some vacuum level. For diffusion pump leak detectors, they had to get down to typically less than 50 mTorr. Depending on the model, definitely significantly lower vacuum than the turbopump leak detectors. So, the turbopump ones with the gross leak testing capabilities, you’re probably looking at 18 to 20 torr. I think a couple of manufacturers claim they can get in the test pretty much right below atmosphere and start looking for very massive leaks. 

The capabilities going to turbopump and Yttria-coated filaments has allowed manufacturers to greatly improve the performance and the robustness and reliability of the leak detectors. 

Doug Glenn: In terms of cost comparison, are newer units more or less expensive than older units?  

Weighing the costs and comparisons of different units

Dave Deiwert: When buying a leak detector in 1889 to early ‘90s, you’re probably looking at the low to mid-20s in price. You’re going to find they are a little higher than that now. With the market and inflation, you’re probably looking at upper 20s to low 30s for the most typical leak detectors that are purchased for the vacuum furnace industry. You can find some that are maybe two or three times that amount, but those are not needed for the industries that we’re talking about today. 

Troubleshooting and Service Efficiency (00:11:00)  

Dave Deiwert: If the client, their suppliers, or people who work on the leak detectors from time to time service a diffusion pump leak detector, they may want to explore an idea to troubleshoot a problem. They may not be sure what the problem is yet.  

First, you’re going to do a proper shutdown of the diffusion pump leak detector to protect the oil in the diffusion pump and the cleanliness of the leak detector. You may wait a good part of an hour for that diffusion pump to cool off before you can try the troubleshooting solution you’re going to investigate. Then you’re going to wait for another good hour for it to heat back up and be ready to confirm if what you have tried to do was successful.  

With a turbopump leak detector, you turn a switch off to turn the power off, and within minutes you can test out the solution on the leak detector. So you greatly expedite your troubleshooting time.  

What might have been almost always a full day event of troubleshooting and servicing a diffusion leak detector turns into less than a half day, possibly even an hour or two.  

In every category, the newer leak detectors are very attractive. If clients or our viewers reach out to their suppliers or potential suppliers, there will most likely be some trade-in value for your old leak detector, which will also help offset the pain and suffering of spending money on a new leak detector. 

Doug Glenn: Hopefully they’ll come pick it up, too. 

Where to Connect Leak Detectors on Furnaces (00:14:11)  

Doug Glenn: In your column, you talk about how there’s some debate amongst users on where to hook up the leak detector on the furnace. Can you walk us through that a bit? 

Dave Deiwert: I run into people who are very adamant that you hook up the leak detector in one of three places. And I’ve told salespeople that while we have our preferred location of where to hook to the leak detector, we should never visit a client and tell them they are doing it all wrong. As a field service engineer, I’ve confirmed that you can connect the leak detector at three most prominent locations, but the question is where is the most optimum place to connect it?  

Leak testing a vacuum furnace

The first place is hooking the leak detector directly up to the furnace chamber, because that’s where they imagine the leaks might be. The next two locations might look like close cousins because they’re both in the series flow away from the chamber, through the pumps and out to the exhaust.  

My preferred location is to connect it between the blower and the chamber. Or, if there’s 

a diffusion pump, I would connect it between the blower and the diffusion pump.  

The last place that you might see somebody connect it is between the blower and the backing pump or a roughing pump. They might do this to use the blower almost like a turbocharger to improve the signal to the leak detector. The disadvantage of doing that is most likely these vacuum pumps are very dirty single-stage roughing pumps. There are two concerns I have with this. One is the back stream of oil or hydrocarbons from that pump to the leak detector. And the second is the potential for back streaming, even of helium from the ballast port of the pump or the exhaust, depending on where the exhaust is terminated. If somebody exhausts the pump directly out of the building, then that’s not so much a concern. But if you connect it between the blower and the diffusion pump or the blower and the chamber, then you’re allowing the roots blower to be like an optically dense filter between the leak detector and that backing pump. 

And for the two concerns that I mentioned earlier about either back streaming of helium from the leak testing or back streaming hydrocarbons from the vacuum/roughing pump, the optimal location would be to hook it up between the blower and the chamber, or if it’s a diffusion pump, between the blower and the diffusion pump. If you’re hooking it up between the diffusion pump and the roughing pump, you need to make sure that you pump down to your base pressure before you open up the valve from the leak detector to that point. You don’t want to potentially suck any diffusion pump oil into the into the leak detector. 

Furnace Connection Points and Hardware (00:15:50) 

Doug Glenn: Is there a feed through meant for leak detection built into the furnace, between the blower and the diffusion pump or roughing pump or on the chamber? 

Dave Deiwert: There is almost always a connection point where I describe my preferred location, especially with furnaces manufactured in the last twenty years. On new furnaces sold today, it’ll be an NW25 flange, which will match up directly to the leak detector.  

With the leak detectors in this industry, we’ll have an NW25 flange, which is a standard vacuum connection. You run a bellows hose from that leak detector to that point on the furnace.  

I like to see a manual ball valve that’s always on the furnace at that point. You can put a blank cap on the exposed port on that valve, which can act like a dust cap. It’s always there. This facilitates doing a PM leak check, which we might talk a little bit more about later.  

Now, sometimes you may go to hook it up between the blower and the furnace or the blower and the diffusion pump and there’s no connection there.  

I’ve seen that, so you have to work with what you’re given. You might well see there’s a port between the blower and the backing roughing pump,  

and you can use that. It’s just not the optimal place to put it. 

If you put the leak detector directly on the chamber, typically there’s a small port that you can hook up to, now you’re going to be competing in what we call molecular flow with a much larger opening going to the blower. The lion’s share of helium is going to go out that large target to the blower, and you’re not going to get as much helium signal to the leak detector. So, putting the leak detector port basically right into the end of the flow, going to the blower lets you sample the flow going in that direction. 

Doug Glenn: Right, which is going to be the bulk of it. 

Dave Deiwert: Yes, and you’ll find a faster response time and faster cleanup and recovery of the leak rate signal when you stop spraying the helium by putting it in that location. 

PM Leak Checks During Furnace Operation (00:18:05) 

Doug Glenn: You briefly discussed conducting PM in the column. Can you walk us through conducting a PM leak check during a live operation of the furnace.  

Dave Deiwert: First off, when you’re going to do a preventative maintenance (PM) leak check on the furnace, there are two scenarios. In the first scenario, you’re not running the furnace today. So, you roll the leak detector up and you look for leaks that you may not know are there when they’re smaller and less noticeable, so you can either mark them or repair them at your convenience before they get to be larger and more noticeable, maybe affecting quality of your process.  

The second scenario is that you have a very long process. You might have enough time to do a leak check while the furnace is in process. Helium is an inert gas. If you pull a vacuum on your furnace to do some heat treating, and it’s going to be in that vacuum level for an hour or more, this may be plenty of time to do some leak testing. We definitely don’t want to compromise quality. But again, helium is an inert gas, and if you have an experienced person doing this PM leak check in an orderly fashion, it can be done safely.  

Basically, you roll the leak detector up to that closed ball valve, and you would have to have the ball valve in place there if you’re doing this during a live process. So you connect the hose from the test part to this closed ball valve. You start the leak detector and put it in test. I suggest that after you put it in test, you ensure you have a good vacuum test level vacuum from the leak detector to the closed valve.  

Because we don’t know initially if the vacuum level is different on the other side of the valve, 

Heat Treat Radio #123 Host Doug Glenn and Dave Deiwert

I recommend momentarily stopping the test of the leak detector. I think all modern leak detectors have a standby mode so you’re not venting the test for a leak detector. You put it in standby, then you open the ball valve, and the leak detector computer can now see if the vacuum level changed to maybe potentially a level a little higher than what it wants to be at. That allows it to tell itself to pull some more vacuum along with the furnace before we actually open the test valve to the analyzer cell or the mass spectrometer.  

If you’re in test, you open the ball valve, and somebody forgets that step, there can be a little vacuum differential and you may shock the leak detector and throw it out of test. This doesn’t hurt the leak detector. You just have to go and press test again. But by putting it into standby and then opening the ball valve, then putting it back into test, this saves you a step. 

Once you put it into test, the next thing you’re going to make a note of is the background level of helium before you start spraying helium. I’m a big fan of people who leak test their furnace, or really anything no matter what market is, and take care of their furnaces purposefully.  

If you don’t suspect any leaks or it’s a brand new furnace, you can hook your leak detector up and you put it in test, and before you spray any helium, make note of what I call the background helium signal. This is a result of any natural helium that’s in the furnace. There is five parts per million helium in the air we breathe. There’s going to be helium in the furnace, and take note of what that is.  

Let’s say you notice you have two times ten minus nine background of helium on the display of the leak detector, and you haven’t sprayed any helium, you can make note of that.  

So now you know you’re going to be looking for leaks for some delta change increase of that value. From there, it’s playing the hot and cold game as you pinpoint where the leak isas you spray helium.  

You can do this potentially while a furnace is in process. You certainly want everybody to know what you’re doing and have an opportunity to discuss this because it could make people nervous, especially the quality manager or even the production manager. It’s something that should be talked about with the whole team to ensure everybody sees the value in it.  

So we spray helium and make a note of anything we see. Next time we have an opportunity, when no production is going on, we can fix that leak at our convenience rather than wait until it might get worse. 

Doug Glenn: Certainly we would want to consider whether that should be done with high-value items in the furnace. 

Dave Deiwert: Yes, unless everybody is on board and understands, and you’re doing things purposely.  

If you are doing a PM leak check on a sensitive process and quality of a product and you’re done testing, that manual ball valve needs to be closed before you do anything else to the leak detector. If you forget, and you press vent on the leak detector, it’s going to try to vent that whole furnace through the little vent valve of the leak detector, and that’s not going to be good. 

This whole discussion point is that everybody on the team would need to buy into this idea and be very clear about what we’re going to do, how we’re going to do it. 

I’m just suggesting it’s something that can be done, and if you confirm it works for you, it has value. It’s just another option for somebody to optimize the way they take care of their furnace. 

Confirming Leak Location Before Repair (00:23:38)  

Doug Glenn: When you’re isolating a leak, how important is it to assume or not assume that you found the leak once you get a reading on the on the meter? 

Dave Deiwert: I spend a lot of time on this topic in every class that I teach because nothing is more frustrating than thinking you have found the leak when you haven’t.  

Let’s say you think have found the leak on some big 10-inch gate valve. Maybe it’s too heavy for one person you have to have someone to help you take this gate valve off the system. Once you take the gate valve off the system, you put a repair kit in there, clean everything, you put it back on the furnace, and everything’s assembled. You start to furnace back up and you do a leak check and realize you still have the same leak you thought you fixed. There may be other flanges you need to check, which might require more help.  

You absolutely, beyond the shadow of doubt, can know that you have found the leak because every time helium is sprayed at that place where you think the leak is, you should get the same response, same response time, same peak leak rate.  

If I spray the helium at point A, where I think the leak is at, and I stop spraying, I wait for the leak rate to go back to baseline, then I go back to spray it again. The more work that is involved, the more I’m going to want to duplicate that response and make sure that is where the leak is at.  

Last thing you can do, just to be sure, is what I call the “x, y, z axis.” Try to spray helium left, right, up, down, back and forth, just to make sure you’re not getting a better response to something else nearby.  

Doug Glenn: By better response, do you mean a higher measurement of helium that comes through or comes through more quickly? 

Dave Deiwert: That’s correct. Now, you might have the problem where there are 2, 3, or 4 connections right in the same general area, and it’s difficult to pinpoint where I’m getting I think the same response, no matter where I’m spraying the helium. To remedy this, you can put a barrier between two fittings. This barrier could be plastic, tape, putty, your hand. Try to put some barrier between the two connections so when you spray on one side now, you’re not really getting the same response you were before and can pinpoint the location of the leak more accurately.  

This is an important step before you repair or remove something. If you remove a NW25 flange and you’re wrong, there’s not a lot of pain and suffering. But I guarantee you 100%, you can prove to yourself with some patience and some diligence where the leak is before you do the work of disassembly and service. 

Doug Glenn: It is better to invest a little time in detection than to repair something that doesn’t need to be repaired or find out later that you fixed the wrong piece.  

Dave Deiwert: Absolutely. 

Repair vs. Replace: Leak Source Components (00:26:44)  

Doug Glenn: Once you do find the leak and it’s through some sort of a device, whether it’s a feed through or a control or a valve, how do you decide whether to repair that item or replace it? 

Discerning when to repair or replace

Dave Deiwert: If the device is something that you can disassemble, and if the manufacturer has a repair kit (a valve is a good example of that), I would recommend that you go ahead with a repair. You have already taken it apart, I would put the part in a repair kit, if you have one, to try to lengthen the time between now and the next time you look at it.  

If it’s a piece that has no repair kit, then obviously you will need to repair it or replace it, depending on your skill level and what it is you’re looking at. 

If you’re looking at thermocouple and the feed screws on it are leaking, you may be a little limited in what your options are. Can you apply a vacuum-friendly sealant to brush around the feed throughs to see if that would solve the problem? That may be an option. What is the cost of that thermocouple? If it’s a $20 item, I’m probably going to put another thermocouple on there. If it’s a $1,000 item, I might try brushing some vacuum-friendly sealant on and see if that takes care of the problem.  

One time, I found a leaking rotary vane pump, back in my field service days.  

These all have repair kits where you can replace all the gaskets, the vanes, everything. But I didn’t have one. This was early in my young career. I talked to the factory about getting one and they were going to send one. But I told the client that we had nothing to lose. Let’s open it up, see what we can find. So, we open that pump up, and it looked pretty bad inside, but we cleaned everything up, even the gaskets, put a little vacuum sealant on, and put it all back together. We made it leak tight, and we got it running again. If I had a repair kit, I’m already there, then let’s go ahead and put the repair kit in. But if you don’t have one, there’s nothing wrong with taking it apart and seeing if cleaning and  

reassembly gets it going for you. 

Rotary Vane Pump Field Advice (00:30:30)  

Dave Deiwert:  I’m going to give a little free advice, no extra charge, to people talking about rotary vane pumps. In my career, I’ve come across quite a number of rotary pumps that were having an issue. I can count on one hand, however, how many times I wasn’t able to just clean it, put it back together, and get it going again with fresh oil. And both those times involved a shaft seal leak. So, if you don’t have a shaft seal leak, in my mind, you’ve got nothing to lose by taking a rotary vane pump apart, cleaning it, and putting some fresh oil back in it.  

If you’re using solvents, when you take it apart, make sure those are solvents cleared back out of there  

because solvents and oil don’t play very nice. You want to make sure that solvents have been removed and degassed from your pump. This may require that you put oil in it, run it for a little while, then flush it, and put some oil in to make sure you don’t have anything remaining behind.  

A little willingness to get your hands dirty, open up the rotary vane pump, and a very good chance that you can get it going by just doing that. 

Doug Glenn: All right, Dave. Appreciate the good advice and your expertise. 

About the Guest

Dave Deiwert

Dave Deiwert has over 35 years of technical experience in industrial leak detection gained from his time at Vacuum Instruments Corp., Agilent Vacuum Technologies (Varian Vacuum), Edwards Vacuum, and Pfeiffer Vacuum. He leverages this experience by providing leak detection and vacuum technology training and consulting services as the owner and president of Tracer Gas Technologies. 

Learn more about Dave from Heat Treat Today’s July Digital Edition’s Meet the Consultant page.

For more information: Contact Dave at ddeiwert@tracergastechnologies.com

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Basics of Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection, Part 2

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Part 1 of this article by Dave Deiwert, owner and president of Tracer Gas Technologies, was published in Heat Treat Today’s November 2024 Vacuum Heat Treat print edition and online and explored finding leaks with and without a leak detector, the best equipment for leak detection, and 10 tips for finding a leak with a helium leak detector. In this week’s Technical Tuesday we bring you part 2, where Dave further addresses leak detection using a helium leak detector including modern advancements in helium leak detector technology, the best place to connect a leak detector, maintaining a leak detector, and discerning whether to repair or replace components with a leak.

This informative piece can be found in Heat Treat Today’s March 2025 Aerospace print edition.

Past Challenges in Leak Detector Operation

When I started my career in 1989, helium leak detectors required frequent maintenance, often caused by improper shutdown or power outage. Another problem with the older detectors is how easily someone can improperly disconnect the test line while it is still in test mode. These situations could cause backflow of diffusion pump oil. An improper shutdown or power loss often required a major overhaul of the leak detector before you could use it again.

If an operator or maintenance technician forgot the leak detector was still in test mode and disconnected the test line from the leak detector to the furnace, the inrush of air to the leak detector also would require a major overhaul of the leak detector. Sometimes the inrush of air would cause the filament in the mass spectrometer to burn out. Additionally, in the days of diffusion pump leak detectors, significant backflow of diffusion pump oil could enter the valve block and possibly the mass spectrometer.

Modern Advancements in Helium Leak Detectors

The first major improvement in leak detector design targeting reliability and significantly lowering the cost of ownership was replacing the diffusion pump in the detector with a turbo pump. Replacing the diffusion pump with a turbo pump in modern leak detectors allows that leak detector to get into test mode sooner at a higher crossover pressure.

Figure 1. Evaluating a vacuum furnace for leaks

In addition, the turbo pumped leak detectors are much less at risk for pressure bursts due to opening the test line while still in test mode or operating some process gas valve while the leak detector is in test mode. With diffusion pumped leak detectors, these events cause a significant maintenance event. But with a turbo pumped leak detector, most likely it will drop out of test mode but be ready to go back into it once the pressure burst event has been solved.

A third benefit of the turbo pumped leak detectors is they typically have a much better helium pumping speed during testing which helps with response time, reaching base leak rate sooner, and recovering more quickly after detecting a leak.

Lastly, leak detectors with greater helium pumping speed benefit with a greater signal-to-noise ratio.

The next major advancement in leak detector design was replacing tungsten filaments with thoria-coated iridium; today the whole leak detector industry is using yttria-coated iridium filaments. The newer fi lament materials operate at a lower temperature but the most significant benefit is how much more robust they are to pressure bursts. Tungsten filaments used in older leak detector mass spectrometer designs would “burn out,” creating an open circuit and loss of operational capability of the leak detector. My experience and that of others shows you can expect to get thousands of hours of more use from each modern filament vs. the old tungsten filaments. This development further aided the reliability and cost-effective ownership of leak detectors.

Another advancement is that modern detectors can now respond to sudden rises in test pressure. If an operator accidentally leaves the leak detector in test mode and then proceeds to disconnect the hose from the furnace, the leak detector will likely sense the sudden rise in test pressure, close the test valve, and then turn off the mass spectrometer filaments and amplifier to protect them and the turbo pump from the pressure spike. The leak detector will document the event as an alarm but soon be ready for the next test with no maintenance required.

Older technology leak detectors gave the user no status signals beyond:

  • Filament on or off
  • High vacuum for mass spectrometer gauge or status light
  • Sight glass for the rotary vane pump

Most likely an end user with an older leak detector has to rely on the manufacturer or other third-party service company to repair or provide preventative maintenance.

Newer technology leak detectors have a full range of alarms and status messages for any issues of concern. For example:

  • Filament on or off
  • Filament life or condition
  • Test port pressure
  • High vacuum gauge
  • Turbo pump controller status readings
  • Error messages for any problems detected
  • Next maintenance date required
  • Last calibration performed
  • Many other messages per the manufacturer’s manual
Figure 2. Dave with a vacuum pumping system recently remanufactured by Midwest Vacuum Pumps Inc. in Terre Haute, Indiana

Maintaining an Older vs. Modern Leak Detector

An end user or OEM still using diffusion pumped leak detectors with tungsten filaments is probably overhauling their leak detector every one to two years at best, or multiple times per year at worst. Depending on how much they use it and how knowledgeable their operators are, the obsolete leak detectors are probably costing them at least several thousands of dollars per event, not to mention the time lost in production as they wait to get a leak detector working so they can find the leak in their furnace.

On the other hand, an end user or OEM with a modern helium leak detector may be fortunate enough to have their model still in production by their supplier today. They can most likely go several to many years without maintenance beyond maintaining the oil quality and level in the rotary vane pump of the leak detector.

Where To Connect the Leak Detector

Figure 3. Leak testing a vacuum furnace

Th ere has been much discussion over the years on where to connect the leak detector to a vacuum furnace. Some think that because they are leak testing a furnace they should connect the leak detector directly to the furnace. While you can do that, you are asking a leak detector — typically with an NW25 vacuum connection or some type of hose barb connector — to compete with the typically very large port of the diffusion pump; in systems without a diffusion pump, the leak detector competes with the blower. In molecular flow level of vacuum, the conductance of helium to that 1” target is significantly lower than the conductance to the port of the valve to the diffusion pump or the blower (imagine a 1” vs. a 10” connection, for example).

It is best to connect to a port near the inlet of the blower, which is typically available. You would still be using an NW25 vacuum connection or smaller hose barb fitting, but you will be sampling the flow to the blower. The recommended connections from the leak detection to the blower should all be the same as to the leak detector test port. Using smaller connectors to the leak detector diminishes conductance to the leak detector from the furnace. This, in turn, decreases the performance of the leak detector.

It is also best to have a manually operated NW25 ball valve that is permanently installed at this point, which would be closed normally with a “blank” fitting clamped to the port on that valve. This would facilitate the following recommendation that preventative maintenance leak checks be completed during long furnace processes.

How To Conduct Preventative Maintenance Leak Checks During Operation

While the furnace is under vacuum in a long furnace process, place the leak detector in test mode. While in test mode, the leak detector creates a vacuum to the closed ball valve on the furnace, as previously recommended. Next, place the leak detector momentarily in standby mode. This closes the test valve of the leak detector but does not vent the test port. Then, open the ball valve. This lets the leak detector test port gauge show the current vacuum level now that it’s connected to the furnace. Now put the leak detector back into test mode.

At this point, you are ready to spray helium at potential leak points on the furnace. While many often begin checking with the leak detector hose at the ball valve to ensure they did not create a leak during assembly, then it is best to move to the opposite side of the furnace — to the furthest point of the vacuum system of the furnace — and slowly work back to the pumps.

A common question is how much helium should you spray? People often say they were taught to adjust the helium spray so that they get one or two bubbles in a glass of water per second or to adjust the spray so that they can barely feel it on their lips or tongue. That last one makes some people nervous. Then, it is basically like playing the hot and cold game as you spray the potentially leaking points of the furnace. More information on helium spray technique can be found in part 1 of this article.

Finding a Leak

The closer you get to a leak, the larger and faster the response will be on the leak rate meter of the leak detector. To confirm that you have located a leak, repeatedly spray the point of leakage and ensure that you get the same peak leak rate display and response time with each spray at that leak point.

Earlier we mentioned that you can accomplish preventative maintenance leak checks on furnaces while in a long process. This is because helium is inert, as mentioned in part 1 of this article. Many times, operators have told me they know of a persistent leak and have not been able to repair it; as the leak is so small, they say it does not affect their product quality. Therefore, it is possible for any furnace operator to: (a) do a preventative maintenance leak check and discover a leak they did not know they had, and then (b) have the option of marking or tagging that leak to do a preemptive repair at their convenience, as opposed to discovering it aft er it degrades to the point of causing a production shut down.

Figure 4. Dave in the front of a vacuum furnace at Mercer Technologies, Inc., in Terre Haute, Indiana

To Repair or Replace?

If you find a leak in a component like a valve, fitting, or thermocouple, you must then consider if the component is something that can be repaired or needs to be replaced. Often components that can be repaired may have a repair kit available from the manufacturer. If you have a leaking door seal, for example, you may be able to clean and, if appropriate, relubricate the seal. If it is damaged or worn, then replacement would be necessary.

The only temporary repairs that come to mind are, for example, a cracked weld or substituting a failed pump with a lower performing pump. For the cracked weld, you may discover that applying some vacuum-appropriate putty or similar material may help the furnace back to approvable vacuum capability. However, a repair like this should only be considered a temporary solution with plans to repair the weld at the earliest opportunity.

For a failed pump, you may replace it with another pump that might not have the same performance but is capable of the same vacuum level. While your process time might be slower, at least you can continue producing product until appropriate repairs can be made to the failed pump or you can replace it with the same type of pump.

Importance of Leak Detection

A leak on a vacuum system introduces air, thereby affecting the quality of the product or even ability to reach the process vacuum level. To ensure the quality of heat treated parts and prevent long delays in production, it is critical that heat treat operations with vacuum furnaces are well-versed in their equipment and leak detection resources, whether they own and operate helium leak detectors or hire a manufacturer or a third-party service company to detect and repair leaks.

About The Author:

Dave Deiwert
President
Tracer Gas Technologies

Dave Deiwert has over 35 years of technical experience in industrial leak detection gained from his time at Vacuum Instruments Corp., Agilent Vacuum Technologies (Varian Vacuum), Edwards Vacuum, and Pfeiffer Vacuum. He leverages this experience by providing leak detection and vacuum technology training and consulting services as the owner and president of Tracer Gas Technologies. Dave is a Heat Treat Consultant. Click here for more about Dave and other consultants Heat Treat Today consultants.

For more information: Contact Dave Deiwert at ddeiwert@tracergastechnologies.com or tracergastechnologies.com.

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Heat Treat Radio #116: Basic Practices for Successful Leak Detection

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In this Heat Treat Radio episode, Dave Deiwert, a seasoned expert in leak detection, shares key steps to locate leaks in a vacuum furnace. Host Doug Glenn and his guest specifically look at helium as a tracer gas. From Dave’s extensive experience starting as a field service engineer to founding his own company, Tracer Gas Technologies, listen as he identifies systematic approaches, the influence of air currents, and cost-effective strategies for effective leak detection.

Below, you can watch the video, listen to the podcast by clicking on the audio play button, or read an edited transcript.

The following transcript has been edited for your reading enjoyment.

Meet Dave Deiwert (01:10)

Doug Glenn: Welcome to another episode of Heat Treat Radio. We’re talking today about leak detection in vacuum, and we’re happy to have Dave Deiwert with us who is a leak detection expert.

Dave, would you give our listeners a little bit of background about you and your qualifications in the industry, and then we’ll jump into some questions about leak detection?

Dave Deiwert: I’ve been in leak detection since 1989. I started off my career as a field service engineer. I did that for about 10 years, then moved into sales engineering for probably the second third of my career. And for the last number of years, I’ve been a product manager and applications manager, working with several of the major vacuum and leak detection companies in the world. I thoroughly enjoy what I do and helping others with their leak testing applications.

Doug Glenn: And now you’ve got your own company. Could we hear a bit about that?

Dave Deiwert: Sure, Tracer Gas Technologies had its birth in September of this year. My focus will be on providing training and applications assistance to industrial clients, research and development labs, and government and university labs.

Doug Glenn: What’s the best way for people to reach you?

Doug Glenn and Dave Deiwert discuss his new position as president of Tracer Gas Technologies.

Dave Deiwert: We are new and still working on the website, but in the meantime, you can reach me at my phone at (765) 685-3360 or email me at DDeiwert@gmail.com.

Doug Glenn: Dave recently published an article in the November 2024 print issue of Heat Treat Today called, “Basics of Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection, Part One.” The article includes ten tips for vacuum leak detection using a helium leak detector.

Indicators of Leaks (03:45)

We’re going to cover some of those tips today. But before we get started, what are the most common symptoms that we have a leak when operating a vacuum furnace?

Dave Deiwert: I’ve been helping these clients for a number of years. And typically, one or two things happen: So, the client is following the furnace manufacturer’s recommendations to do a periodic “leak up test,” where they pump the furnace down towards base vacuum; they isolate the pumps to look for the pressure to rise after the pump’s been isolated, and if the pressure rises at a faster rate over a test period of time, which might be ten minutes, then they determine they have a leak that they should be looking for.

It’s either during that test that they discover they have a leak that they should be looking for before it impacts quality. Or the problem develops while they’re using the furnace, and it begins to affect the quality of the product. They start to see a difference in the appearance of the product because there’s some type of contaminant gas from atmosphere, water vapor, or maybe their product is sensitive to oxygen and such. It also could be as simple as they used to pump down to base pressure for the process in “x” amount of time, and it seems like it’s taking longer.

One of those two things will get their attention, and that’s okay. Let’s look for the leaks.

Isolating the Source of the Leak (05:11)

Doug Glenn: Most of the discussion we’re going to have today is going to be on using helium leak detectors. But let’s assume you don’t have a helium leak detector. What would be your checklist of things to run through to try to isolate the source of the leak?

Dave Deiwert: My perception is that end users that only have maybe one or two furnaces might not have their own leak detector, and calling for help might be quite a pricey option. They may try to do some things on their own without the leak detector or help from somebody outside the organization.

The first thing you’re going to do is consider where most leaks typically would be on a furnace. You’re going to think of things like the door is opened and closed on every cycle of the furnace, so the gasket or O-ring type material there can get worn over time.

Or maybe while the door was open, something came to rest on the O-ring: a piece of fuzz, hair, or slag metal. Something may be there that creates a leak path when they close the door. To look at that in greater detail, they get some extra light on it and see if they can determine something there. They may go ahead and remove that O-ring and just clean it up really well. Many might put a light coating with some vacuum grease or some type on it and then reinstall it.

Of course, we recommend that you try not to use vacuum grease. That could be a whole other discussion. But many will try that and see if it’s helpful to them.

The vent valve for the system also opens up after every test. So, there’s another gasket that can get worn or dirty.

Another thing would be process gases. If they filled their furnace with some back stream with argon or something, those process gas valves can leak past the seal.

So they think about each of these things and go through them one at a time and inspect them. And if they’re not quite sure what they’re seeing, they might replace the gasket or seal and then hope that they’re successful. And if they continue to not be successful, they ultimately end up calling for help.

Somebody could get very frustrated looking for leaks if you don’t know for sure that it’s only picking up helium. It’s not reacting to Dave Deiwert’s aftershave or cologne, or something else… the fork truck that went by, or something else. I can say with 100% certainty it’s reacting to helium.

Understanding Leak Detector Technology (07:14)

Doug Glenn: I want to ask for a further explanation on the first tip in this article.You say, “Understand how your leak detector works to the point that you can confirm it is working properly.” How does a company do that?

Dave Deiwert: If you’re going to go to the expense of having a leak detector — which many should — they should understand how it works properly and how to tell that it’s working properly or not before you start spraying helium to look for leaks.

Every manufacturer of leak detectors today, and for quite a number of years, has a leak detector that will let you know whether you’re in the test mode or in a standby mode. If you ever approach somebody that is leak testing and the leak detector is in standby mode and they’re spraying helium, you can suggest, “I bet you haven’t found any leaks yet, have you? Well then, you might want to put your leak detector in test mode.”

Understanding it’s in test mode and understanding how to calibrate the leak detector are good tools to help your success in finding leaks on the system. You have to at least be familiar enough with the leak detector to understand its operation and knowing that it’s sensitive to helium and the calibrating procedure increases and supports this understanding.

Doug Glenn: That makes a lot of sense: Make sure it’s turned on.

Dave Deiwert: Right, turned on and connected to your system. If you don’t have a hose going from the leak detector to the furnace and you’re spraying helium, that’s also going to be a problem.This might sound silly, but sometimes people think, “Hey, this sounds easy. You just spray helium and look for leaks.” They may ask some person who doesn’t really have much experience, “Hey, go over and test the furnace.” They may be embarrassed to say that they don’t know how to use the leak detector, so they may give it a go. Because they don’t understand the leak detector, they might not be successful.

Doug Glenn: That leads me to my next question because I would be that guy that doesn’t really know how they work. When you’re performing a leak detection using a helium leak detector, how does that process work? Where is the leak detector? Where are you spraying the helium?

Dave Deiwert: Sure. In my career I’ve seen people choose a few different points of connection to the furnace, but you’ll find our industry that we teach people that the best place would be to connect the hose from the leak detector to point in front of the blower if they’ve got a blower on their system. If they don’t have one, it’s going to go at a connection point near the inlet of the pump of gas pumping through this system. But you want to sample that flow of gases from the furnace towards the pumps. That way, you can get a sample to the leak detector as you’re spraying the helium.

When you talk about how the leak detectors work… at every class I teach, I think it’s important to at least give enough information so that you have confidence that the leak detector can help you. How’s it sensitive to helium and why? With these leak detectors, no matter who manufactures them, typically you’ll see that inside there’s a mass spectrometer that’s tuned to the gas mass weight of a helium molecule. And because it’s dependent on the mass weight of a helium molecule, not the mass weight of oxygen, nitrogen, argon, or whatever, you can be 100% sure that when the leak detector reacts, it’s getting helium from somewhere.

I stress that because somebody could get very frustrated looking for leaks if you don’t know for sure that it’s only picking up helium. It’s not reacting to Dave Deiwert’s aftershave or cologne, or something else… the fork truck that went by, or something else. I can say with 100% certainty it’s reacting to helium.

You might be surprised how often in my career somebody said, “Dave, the leak detector’s reacting, and I haven’t even started spraying helium yet.” I will tell them helium is coming from somewhere, and it could be the tank of helium that you’ve rolled up to the furnace is spraying helium and you didn’t realize it. Maybe the spray gun is still spraying helium even though the trigger is not pulled. Maybe the regulator’s leaking.

Leak detector hooked up to vacuum furnace
Source: Dave Deiwert

And if that furnace has got a leak, it’s the whole reason you brought the leak detector over. You’re not spraying helium yet, but helium is being sprayed by the tank or the regulator. The leak detector is going to react to the helium regardless of how it got into the system. So that can be very frustrating.

Let me back up: If you know beyond the shadow of a doubt the leak detector will only respond to helium and you haven’t sprayed helium yet, you know immediately it’s coming from somewhere.That is to say, I need to figure out what’s going on there. Otherwise I might spin my wheels looking for a leak while something else is a distraction for me.

Does that make sense?

Understanding Helium (11:53)

Doug Glenn: Yes, it does. Let me ask you this, though, because I’ve never done a helium leak detection as a publisher of a magazine — we don’t have a lot of helium in this business. You’ve got this box called the helium leak detector. It’s got a hose. You connect the hose near the blower or someplace close to the vacuum pump. I assume the leak detector is sampling the air as it’s coming towards the pump or towards the blower. Correct?

Dave Deiwert: Absolutely.

Doug Glenn: Then you’re spraying helium on the outside of the furnace somewhere to see if it’s being pulled into the furnace through some hole and therefore heading towards the pump.  Correct?

Dave Deiwert: Yes.

Doug Glenn: I wasn’t ever sure how that worked — whether you spray the helium inside the furnace then you’re checking around the outside of the furnace with the leak detector; I know that sounds silly, but I thought that might be how it worked. But the truth is you’re sampling the air inside, and you’re spraying helium on the outside. If that’s the case, with a canister of helium on the outside of the furnace, won’t the detector be detecting the gas because it is going from that helium canister through and into the furnace, right?

Dave Deiwert: Yes, that’s correct.

When we get into the idea of spraying helium — where does the helium go when I spray it? When I started my career way back in 1989 as a field service engineer, I was taught that helium rises because it’s the lightest gas. And so I was taught, as were many other people, to start at the top of the furnace and work your way down.

The problem with teaching that is (remember, there’s five parts per million of helium naturally in the air we breathe) that if I start spraying helium, I can tell you with 100% confidence that the air currents in the room are going to impact that helium. If you can feel the air blowing from your right towards your left, and when someone’s got a floor fan on you can be sure of it, the predominant helium you’re spraying is going to move that way. It’s going to dissipate over time, but starting somewhere methodical to spray the helium is important and to not spray too much.

Be Patient with Leak Detection! (13:14)

Doug Glenn: I did want to ask a little bit about that because in your second and third tip in this article you expressed the need to be patient when doing a leak detection. Just exactly how patient do we need to be, and why do we need to be so patient?

Dave Deiwert: Frequently throughout my career, I’ve run into people who say, “I’m not sure if I’ve got a leak, so I’m going to spray a lot of helium so I can determine it pretty quickly.” But if you spray that helium like you’re trying to dust off the equipment, you will have so much helium in the air the leak detector will definitely react if there’s a leak. However, now you have to wait forever and a day; it could be quite a while until the helium that you just sprayed all over the system and in the room dissipates before you can continue looking for a leak.

I always ask this question when I’m teaching a class with people who have been doing leak testing: “How do you set your helium spray nozzle?” The ones that’ve been doing it for quite a while will say that they’ll get a glass of water, for example, and they’ll put the spray nozzle down in the water and adjust the flow to where they get one bubble every two to three seconds. I see some variation on that, one to ten seconds. But they’ll try to meter it down. Somebody might say, “I’ll put the nozzle up to my lip and spray so I can barely feel it.”

I’ve run into people who say, “I’m not sure if I’ve got a leak, so I’m going to spray a lot of helium so I can determine it pretty quickly.” But if you spray that helium like you’re trying to dust off the equipment, you will have so much helium in the air the leak detector will definitely react if there’s a leak. However, now you have to wait forever and a day.

To those people, I’ll say, “That’s a good start. If you put that nozzle in that glass of water and it looks like a Ken and Barbie jacuzzi, you’re spending way too much helium into that.” I would meter that down to a very small amount, whether it’s a bubble every three seconds or you can barely feel it on your lip is a good place to start.

And because I made the comment that helium doesn’t necessarily rise but can go different directions based on the wind, air currents in the room, and fresh air makeup, eventually somebody says, “Where should I start?” I’ll say, “I don’t have a problem with you starting at the top of the furnace and working your way down. Be methodical.”

Some people will start at the leak detector they just hooked up because they might have put a leak in the bellows connection from the leak detector. You might start there to make sure the assembly you just did is leak tight.

But start somewhere, be methodical as you move across the system, and remember that helium can go up, down, left, back, or forward depending on what the air currents are.

Doug Glenn: I was actually going to ask you about the air currents, because I thought that was an interesting tip that you had made. In fact, I think that’s like tip four and five in this article. I think we’re dealing with air currents and things of that sort. So, we’ll skip over that, because I think you’veaddressed that.

The Dead Stick Method (16:48)

Doug Glenn: You mention an interesting thing called a “dead stick method” in tip number six. Can you explain what that is?

Dave Deiwert: I’m glad you asked that because I looked back on that later and thought I don’t think I elaborated on that enough for somebody that’s never done the dead stick method. That is a term for when you spray just a little squirt of helium away from you and the furnace, and then stop spraying. Then you’re going to rely on the residual helium that’s coming out of the tip of the nozzle for some period of time.

In my training classes, I typically have a plastic bottle that has a little right-angle nozzle on it. You may have used them back in high school in chemistry; it might have had alcohol in it. I will squirt a little helium in that plastic bottle and then screw the cap on; that will last me for two or three days at a trade show or a training event. I don’t have to squeeze the bottle. There’s enough helium coming out of the nozzle that you can detect leaks.

To demonstrate, I’ll put hair on an O-ring on a test for the leak detector. (It’s the cause of my receding hairline.) I can take that nozzle without squeezing the bottle and move it near the hair that I put in there, and it will detect it very impressively every single time, at least over the course of two to three days.

Perspective looking up into the world’s largest vacuum chamber at NASA’s facility in Sandusky, Ohio
Source: Dave Deiwert

My point of demoing that is people tend to spray away too much helium. If there’s five parts per million naturally in the air we breathe, you only need enough delta difference so that as you go past where the leak’s at you can see a reaction from the leak detector and pinpoint it.

Backtrack to if somebody sprays a lot of helium to prove they have a leak. Now they have to wait a long time for the helium to dissipate. And by the way it’s not just dissipating from the room. You’ve sprayed a lot of helium that is now feeding that leak. And as it goes through the leak path in the furnace, it expands back out in front of you. It’s got to pump away from the furnace, too. It’s also got to clear the system and go out to the pumps before you get back to baseline so that you can continue leak checking.

Therefore, if you spray just very small amounts,, you have to get close to where the leak is before you start to get a response. This way you have less concern of helium drifting to the opposite side of the furnace and going through a leak path there — that can really distract. You may think you’re near the leak, but it’s really on the other side of the furnace because you’ve sprayed way too much helium.

Spraying little amounts might make you feel like it’s taking longer. But the fact is, when you start to get a reaction at the leak detector, you can be comfortable that you’re getting close to the where the leak is.

Doug Glenn: If you know you’re in a room with air currents in it (let’s just say there’s a flow of some sort from left to right), does it make sense to always start downwind, and then work your way back across the system?

Dave Deiwert: Yes. If I can feel a fan — Joe’s got his fan on because it’s keeping him cool, and it’s blowing over towards where I’m leak testing, I might say, “Hey Joe, could you turn your fan off a little bit while I’m testing?” He may say, “No, it’s making me comfortable.” All right, now I’ve got to work with that. I know that I can feel the air currents moving from my right towards my left. So, yes, starting downwind and working my way up could be helpful. You want to pay attention to what the air is doing if you can tell. It may be a very calm environment, and you’re not sure what the air currents are doing; just be methodical. Pick somewhere to start in the furnace.

Here’s something else about spraying helium: Once you think you know where the leak is at, every time you put the spray nozzle there you should get the same response. You spray the helium, you get a response, you stop spraying and wait until it drops back to baseline, and then you go back to where you think the leak is. If that’s where the leak is, every time you put the probe there, you should get the same response time at the leak detector. If even one time you put the spray gun there and don’t get a response or not nearly the same, then that’s not where the leak is at. Yeah, you should know beyond a shadow of a doubt when you pinpoint the leak.

Doug Glenn: How often do you see more than one leak at a time? Let’s say you isolate a leak, you think you got it, then say you take the gasket off or whatever you do, do the test again, and there’s still a leak.How often does that happen?

Dave Deiwert: It happens most of the time. When I was a field service engineer and somebody called me in to help, I almost never found one leak. That tells me they were working with one leak that maybe wasn’t large enough to affect their quality or the cycle time, and they were living with it. And the day comes where they have a leak that gets their attention or the leak got larger. It can be more challenging if you’ve got more than one leak. It’s a short-lived celebration when you think you found a leak and then you go to start the process, and, oh, it looks like you still have a leak. That wasn’t the one. So, you might make a case for looking to see if you can pinpoint another leak while you’re in the leak testing mode.

Doug Glenn displays the cover of the November 2024 issue of Heat Treat Today, in which Dave Deiwert’s article, “Basics of Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection, Pt 1,” is featured.

Saving on Helium Gas (21:35)

Doug Glenn: Besides the fact that a helium leak detector can save you all kinds of time because typically you can find a leak faster with a helium leak detector then in a process of elimination, you also mentioned a tip for saving money regarding the mixing of the gas. Could you elaborate on that and any other cost savings tips?

Dave Deiwert: I already mentioned that people tend to spray way too much helium at least until they’re sensitive to that concern and cut back. But when they buy the tanks of helium, they’re buying 100% helium. And remember my comment that you just need enough delta increase in the helium that you’re applying to where the leaks at to be able to pinpoint it. The possibility that you could buy your tanks of helium at a lesser percentage, maybe 25% helium and 75% nitrogen, would help you save on some helium and help your efforts to not be spraying too much.

People have not been saying that in this industry, and so that can make folks nervous. “I don’t know, Dave. We’ve never done that before. I’ve never heard anybody else say that before.” I suggest if you are going through a lot of helium, you could cut down how much helium you’re spraying. You could save some significant money, especially these larger facilities with many furnaces and so forth. Give it a try. Buy one tank of it with a mix gas and pick something that you’re comfortable trying, whether it be 25% or 50% helium and buy one bottle. And the next time you test your furnace and find a leak, then try to look at that leak with the lower percentage helium and prove to yourself whether using a lower percentage of helium is going to save you money.

Doug Glenn: You’re suggesting people get themselves comfortable with it, use their 100% until they find the leak, and then try the lower helium.

Dave Deiwert: When they show the proof to themselves, that they can still have the capability to find leaks like that, then they could save a little money. Plus, there’s the added benefit of not spraying so much helium and having to wait as long for the area to clear up before you can start spraying again to continue to pinpoint a leak.

Doug Glenn: And that would save you additional time. Dave, thank you very much. Is there anything else you’d like to add before we wrap up?

Dave Deiwert: Only that if you know you’ve got a leak in the system — it failed the leak up test or quality or whatever, you sprayed it around the entire system, and you can’t find any leaks — then you’re probably looking at an internal leak most likely past the seat of a valve. Or maybe you’ve got a vent valve that’s leaking past the seat, but your plumbing to that vent valve maybe goes out of the building, so you don’t really have an easy access to spray helium past that.

For example, with an argon valve, you may need to disconnect the argon supply from that valve so you can get access to that side of the valve to spray helium to see if you can detect a leak past the seat of that valve.

Doug Glenn: Dave, thanks very much, I appreciate it. I’m sure we’ll be talking again. I know vacuum leak detection is an important thing.

About The Guest

Dave Deiwert
President
Tracer Gas Technologies

Dave Deiwert has over 35 years of technical experience in industrial leak detection gained from his time at Vacuum Instruments Corp., Agilent Vacuum Technologies (Varian Vacuum), Edwards Vacuum, and Pfeiffer Vacuum. He leverages this experience by providing leak detection and vacuum technology training and consulting services as the owner and president of Tracer Gas Technologies.

Contact Dave at ddeiwert@gmail.com.

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Basics of Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection, Part 1

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If you have the right leak detection equipment, the process of detecting leaks can be more time efficient. In this Technical Tuesday installment, learn more about the practical side of leak detection, from potential sources of leaks to equipment and methods of effective leak detection. Guest columnist Dave Deiwert, president of Tracer Gas Technologies, also provides 10 tips for identifying the most common sources of leaks. Stay tuned for his follow-up article that will focus on operating and maintaining a helium leak detector and repairing the leaks that are found.

This informative piece can be found in Heat Treat Today’s November 2024 Vacuum print edition.

When leaks develop in a vacuum furnace, they can inhibit the furnace’s ability to achieve the desired process vacuum level. Without an appropriate leak detector, an operator and maintenance team are limited to guessing where the leak might be, a time-consuming process of elimination evaluating each component or possible leak point one at a time. Alternatively, if you have the right leak detection equipment, the process of detecting leaks can be more time efficient.

First, a team needs to know the possible sources for leaks — especially if they are troubleshooting without a leak detector. Then, selecting the appropriate equipment can speed up the leak detection process. Ultimately, that equipment is most useful if a team is informed on how to best use and maintain the equipment.

Troubleshooting Without a Leak Detector

If a team does not have a leak detector, they first must disassemble potentially leaking components to clean and replace gaskets and seals. For some products, like valves and pumps, they might use a supplier-provided repair kit.

After reassembling, if they discover they still have a leak in their furnace, they will continue to select possible leaking components for maintenance.

The team would then start with the components most likely to be leaking — for example, the door seal. The door to the furnace is opened and closed every cycle of the furnace as the operator removes products that were under process for the previous cycle and then places the next product, or batch of products, into the furnace. This opening and closing of the door creates wear on the gasket and also provides opportunity for foreign materials and debris to land on the seal and cause a leak. As this is just one possible source of a leak, continuing to troubleshoot can become a lengthy process. (See sidebar for more information on possible sources for leaks.)

Selecting Equipment To Support Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection

Having a leak detector on-site allows a team to identify the source of the leak more efficiently. Typically, major OEM furnace suppliers, their field service teams, and major end-users of vacuum furnaces have selected “fixed magnetic sector mass spectrometers” optimized for using helium as a tracer gas to look for leaks in vacuum furnaces. These are also the tool of choice for OEM companies and end-users in other vacuum applications such as glass coaters, solar panel manufacturing, automotive, medical, aerospace, and others. In industrial manufacturing plants and R&D, we commonly call these tools “helium leak detectors.”

Helium leak detectors are the well-established method for leak testing because helium — the second smallest molecule and a safe, inert gas that does not react with other gasses or material — is useful for finding the smallest of leaks.

Figure 1. Leak detector hooked up to vacuum furnace
Source: Dave Deiwert
Figure 2. Perspective looking up into the world’s largest vacuum chamber at NASA’s facility in Sandusky, Ohio
Source: Dave Deiwert

10 Practical Tips for Leak Detection

The following tips for leak detection pertain to using helium leak detectors:

  1. Understand how your leak detector works to the point that you can confirm it is working properly.
  2. A common question is, “How long after I spray a point on the furnace should I wait for a reaction on the leak rate meter to ensure that point doesn’t leak?” The answer is to characterize your system so that you know what the longest time constant can be for a leak to be detected. For example, purposefully apply a leak at the furthest point on the furnace from where the leak detector is installed. Then, spray helium and count the seconds to when the leak detector reacts to helium from the leak. Now you will know that you never have to wait longer than that without a reaction before moving on to the next point of leak testing.
  3. Avoid moving along too quickly around the furnace as you spray helium. If there is a reaction at the leak detector when you stop spraying, you may have passed the point of leakage. After the leak detector leak rate drops back to baseline, you will try respraying the point of concern. If there is no reaction, consider that you may have moved along too quickly, and retrace the area you had sprayed more slowly. If you do not get a reaction again, it is very possible that the air currents of the room had carried the helium towards a point that you have not even reached yet.
  4. Remember: There are naturally five parts per million of helium in the air we breathe. Therefore, when you spray helium, it becomes the victim of the air currents in the air and the fresh air makeup of the room. Helium can go up, down, left, right, away from you, and towards you depending on the air currents of the room. 
  5. Because helium spreads so pervasively, it is better to spray very small amounts of helium so that when you get a reaction from the leak detector, you know you are getting closer to the leak. If you spray helium like you are trying to dust off the system at the same time, you will quickly confirm there is a leak but will be forced to wait forever and a day for the helium to clear up in the room to the point that you can continue looking for the leak.
  6. If you have confirmed the location of the leak to a small area, but there are still several points of possibility within it and you are unable to pinpoint the leak, diminish the amount of helium you are spraying. You can try to further restrict the flow of helium by using the “dead stick” method. This is where you spray helium from the spray nozzle away from the area of interest, then you place the nozzle near the potential leak points one at a time, relying on the residual helium that is present at the nozzle. This can still work well because (if you remember that there are 5 parts per million of helium in the air we breathe) there could still be hundreds, if not thousands or more, parts per million of helium present at the tip of the nozzle — at least long enough for using the dead stick method.
  7. If you are looking to minimize the costs of helium, consider buying your tanks of helium at a lower percentage using nitrogen as the balance gas in the cylinder. People already tend to spray too much helium when conducting leak detector tests, and we are not trying to measure the severity of the leaks. So, decreasing the percentage of helium will save money without negatively impacting leak detection. If you are not yet comfortable with this but interested in testing it, simply buy one tank with a lower percentage of helium. Next time you find a leak with your 100% tank of helium, roll the tank with a lower percentage of helium over, spray the same leak on your system, and determine the difference (if any) in the effectiveness of detecting any leaks found.
  8. Learn the “wellness” checks from your leak detector’s manufacturer. This can help you establish preventative maintenance for your leak detector before it has a problem that makes it unavailable for use when your furnace needs a leak check. Your leak detector manufacturer should be able to recommend what points of interest on their leak detector need regular scrutiny.
  9. Calibrate your leak detector when you start it up and check calibration when you are finished to confirm it is working properly.
  10. If you are fortunate to not need your leak detector for many months, I recommend you schedule a few times per year to start it up and ensure it is still working well. Occasionally, I hear of someone who needed their leak detector after months to a year of disuse who found that it was not working well. Leak detectors, like pumps, should not be neglected indefinitely.
Figure 3. Blower mounted atop pump
Source: Dave Deiwert

The Value of Efficiency

While it is possible to identify and repair leaks without a helium leak detector, a team with one is likely to net significant time savings if they operate and maintain it intentionally. An operation with many furnaces typically will have their own leak detector — and probably a spare. Operations with just one or two furnaces may choose to hire a service company to find the leaks in their system; this works well if they rarely encounter leaks on their systems.

“Basics of Vacuum Furnace Leak Detection, Part 2” will cover advancements in helium leak detector technology, operating and maintaining a leak detector, and comparing whether it would make sense to repair vs. replace a leak detector.

About the Author:

Dave Deiwert
President
Tracer Gas Technologies
Source: Dave Deiwert

Dave Deiwert has over 35 years of technical experience in industrial leak detection gained from his time at Vacuum Instruments Corp., Agilent Vacuum Technologies (Varian Vacuum), Edwards Vacuum, and Pfeiffer Vacuum. He leverages this experience by providing leak detection and vacuum technology training and consulting services as the owner and president of Tracer Gas Technologies.  

For more information: Contact Dave at ddeiwert@gmail.com.

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FNA Week in Heat Treat Social Media

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Welcome to a special edition of Heat Treat Today’s This Week in Heat Treat Social Media. We’ve discovered a furnace-full collection of posts that document the excitement of the past week at Furnaces North America (FNA). From the arrival of booth materials to the final speech at the MTI awards ceremony, they’re all here: check out these posts and videos for a roundup of FNA and heat treat social media.

As you know, there is so much content available on the web that it’s next to impossible to sift through all of the articles and posts that flood our inboxes and notifications on a daily basis. So, Heat Treat Today is here to bring you the latest in compelling, inspiring, and entertaining heat treat news from the different social media venues that you’ve just got to see and read! If you have content that everyone has to see, please send the link to editor@heattreattoday.com.

1. Lightening the Pre-Show Heavy Lifting

A good show is more than just what happens from curtain rise to curtain fall. Whether it’s a play on the stage or a trade show in a convention hall, there is a lot of work that goes into setting up and tearing down . . . sometimes back-breaking work. The advent of 3D printing has made that task a little easier, and ironically, at FNA 2024, that means models set out for display were processed with 3D printing to preserve the look of metal while making it easy for team to carry to the floor. Thanks to Sarah Jordan for bringing this post to the web.

2. Kudos and Awards from Beginning to End

We love it when social media is full of the faces of the heat treat industry, and this week is no exception. We found individual recognition posts, the celebration of Heat Treat Today’s 40 Under 40, and the Metal Treating Institute‘s honorees at the awards ceremony on the last night of the show.

Look these posts up on LinkedIn here: Dave Deiwert; JUMO Process Control; Paulo Heat Treating; Brazing and Metal Finishing; Solar Atmospheres, Inc.; and Gasbarre Thermal Processing Systems.

3. Presenting . . .

Eyes and ears were open and trained on all that’s new in heat treating presented at FNA 2024, whether in technical sessions; impromptu, on-the-floor demonstrations; or new product reveals.

Look these posts up on LinkedIn here: Carlos Torres; Solar Atmospheres, Inc.; SAFECHEM; and Nitrex.

4. Sparkling Shoes and Aching Feet

‘Nuff said.

Look these posts up on LinkedIn here: Christina Tiell and Heather Falcone.

5. The Camera Turned on Us

What does Heat Treat Today do when at FNA? Here’s the link to the reel.

Look this post up on LinkedIn here.

Hope to see you next year at ASM Heat Treat Show and the year after at FNA 2026!

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